Curse

Ramus · May 10, 2005, 08:34 PM // 20:34

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Originally Posted by Dreamsmith

If warriors are left to do their thing unmolested, they easily outdamage any other class in the game. But they're the easiest class in the world to shutdown, and the one with the fewest options for dealing with it. They can't catch a ranger unless the ranger lets them (hard to catch someone when you're crippled). They can't damage an elementalist or mesmer unless they let them (hard to hit anything when you're blind, missing when you're not, slowed, and taking damage with each attack). They can't damage a monk unless the monk let's them (can't attack at all when you're pacified).

Lately in PvE, my W/Mo has been a virtual magnet for Spirit Shackles/Mind Wrack or Blindness. Lucky for me, in PvP most players aren't half as intelligent as mergoyles or skeleton sorcerers.

Dreamsmith wins again.

RedX · May 10, 2005, 11:15 PM // 23:15

My W/ME has no problem with W/MO. I use backfire and they die. Very simple.

Learn new strategies. The classes are perfectly balanced. The way NC is if you cry about your lack of skill they will nerf the class into submission...and we DON'T WANT THAT.

JAGeAkurei · May 10, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34

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Originally Posted by Soul Monarch

And 54 damage per swing, huh?

Obviously you've never been hit by a hammer build with Judges Insight + Strength of Honor.

Care Less · May 10, 2005, 11:50 PM // 23:50

here is the deal , people who fear w/mo's are mostly not very experienced
if you have played any mmo before GW you know im right

New players fear them and die , experienced players laugh and move on

sure there are some scary w/anything builds ..but the W is never impossible (mostly not even hard) to kill , and thats comming from a gimpy mo/w

and like a thousand times before..

GW is about TEAM balance , if you are fighting a class that you cant handle without any help from your team .. then your team just sucks :P

Banta · May 10, 2005, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Lots of people here say for every build there is a counter build. But in the early arenas (I can't speak for anything above level 15 at the moment) in most cases the team with the most warriors wins especially if there is a monk on that team. In those arenas a team with 1 monk and 3 warriors in very hard to beat especially if your team has no warriors and no healer (which happens to me all the time). It does get very frustrating and I play a mes / neco.

MachineKing · May 11, 2005, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Yes Warrior/Monks are Durable but they are not as tough as you think my warrior (warrior/Ele) took care of them quite easily. I can see why people would compalin about them. Also reguarding the only if the Elementalist or mesmer lets them is not true al la warrior has to do is ure sprint combinations and they cant out run them. A good warrior shutdown (well not really a shutdown i guess somethingthat would cause a warrior to slow down) is the Mesmer skill Empathy this puppy can be pretty mean. My armor wasnt higher than any higher than the 50 AL ring mail sold in AC but i did have a good sword.

Tormunda · May 11, 2005, 10:53 AM // 10:53

Please bring on the War/Monks. I would love nothing better than to face parties of 4 wa/mo. Because they would never stand a chance!

Every party member has his tactics and are very effective if used right. (inc Wo/mo) but I have yet to see 1 class be any more effective than another. (Some classes just need to work more on their tactics than others!)

A balanced party that works well as a team is the most effective force. Period!

Personally. I have played all the classes and currently I laugh when Wa/mo's try and take me out. They are so funny, looking so big and serious just before they try and flee in panic. Eat dirt suckers!

Perishiko ReLLiK · May 11, 2005, 11:23 AM // 11:23

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Originally Posted by Playful Kitty

Well ok here it goes.

Ive seen lvl 5-10 wars kill people on 2 seconds cause they can hit like 54s each time. Its not right. Ive built a necro/war monk/war Ele/mes War/monk. A war/monk can not be defeated. They have all this very advanced armor and a fiery sword guess its called a dragon sword? But they kill in 2 seconds and it isnt right. Thiis is with 1 war vs 1 more person or 1 war vs 4 people! (in old ascalon arena) Its impossible to kill them! then once you do kill them hello they get a raise! BS!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just gonna say, im incredibly sick of this stuff floating around. If you don't know how to play the game then leave. lol... This game is not unbalanced... go out and try to make an invincible character, and someone will find a way to cripple it down to a pathetic nothing...

The only reason for "unbalanced" problems in this game is the root of your own unexperience.

Quit making threads like this, because my ranger nec will take ANY warrior monk with Ease... ive takin two warrior monks and a ranger (no mes secondary), at the same time and won (i guarentee they thought i was cheating). of course they probably just weren't as experienced... but even the best warrior monk could only "last longer" vs me. If you've seen me and know what im talkin about, im the endless energy blood nuking ranger with insane armor...

Perishiko **Perish In Kind oblivion*

Don't be fooled by clones.

edit:: Just so you all know -- Hint Hint = Use blind to shut down physical dmg... use backfire to shut down magic. GG, find a monk that a mesmer cant take out and ill quit the game.

P.S. If anyone with a dragon sword comes at me, i just laugh... my defenses vs ele is insanity... have fun with the game, and experement... anything you want to play, can be built... anything you want to beat, focus on it... if you try to make a character that's good at solo'n, then more then likely it's not a good guild build, and it's a useless character anyways.

I'm gonna enjoy when the game gets farther into stradegy, there's so many stradegies just being scratched at the surface.

ChristopherKee · May 11, 2005, 03:25 PM // 15:25

3 Necros 1 MoMe will beat them in about 20 seconds.

Master Elyas · May 11, 2005, 03:41 PM // 15:41

im a lvl 15 W/Mo, with a Fiery Dragon Sword of Deathbane... and the proness armor called Wyvern (Although, its the crappeh stuff from LA...). Im quite positive that a warrior like mine can do that Playful Kitty... its just not frikken possible... Unless the Warrior was lvl 20, and the ppl were like... lvl 5s, then the Warrior could take 4 at a time...

but then again, im not 2 sure... i havent done much PvPing since release, so yea...

xakia · May 11, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

4 knockdowns, ward, and aftershock, Defensive Stance... I can tank two War/Mos and kill them both.

For War/Nec... Plague Touch is a blessing vs Paladins. Bleeds are most of their damage (most use shield/fiery sword of noobness)...

Trick is to get them to half and prevent them from healing from there. Second trick would require you to stop them from running around the damn arena 50 million times.....

Jana · May 11, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I'll admit I have not read every post on this thread, but allow me just one second to mention (for those too lazy to figure it out or try something new) 2 mesmer skills that used together OWN W/Mo, every time (assuming you can heal yourself a bit or have someone do it).

Diversion / Empathy

Dead W/Mo. Everytime. There is a counter to EVERYTHING in this game, just need to find it.

Jana

Master Elyas · May 11, 2005, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by xakia

(most use shield/fiery sword of noobness)...

hey... what would u use instead of this so called "Fiery Sword of Noobess", if you were a Sword Warrior?????????? i love my sword... and, its called a Fiery Dragon Sword of Deathsbane unless u didnt know... and its gold... with 15-22 damage...

pwned

and, it gives +15% damage to undead, and its customized for me...

me pwn u with it sometime...